Book Club Notes April 13th, Chapter 10 Startrekking (or Lucid Dreaming, Out of Body Experiences, and Exploring Other Dimensions of Reality)

This chapter’s focus on Lucid Dreaming was interesting.  Lucid dreaming means being aware that you are dreaming as you dream and being able to control your dream as you dream it, or of being conscious as you sleep.  Often when this occurs one feels like they haven’t really slept, yet often the body is refreshed in the morning, but the mind has been “on the go”.  When this occurs it is much easier to recall dreams vividly when awakening.  Often if people find a level of consciousness in a scary dream, they will fight the “bad “guy or get rid of him in some way. “…it is not at all clear that the essence of a slain dream enemy is or will be helpful to the dreamer’s psyche.”  (pg 245) She suggests that the ideal way to handle this is to get to know what part of you this “bad “guy represents and understand what it is that you are needing to pay attention to or to learn from this situation.  During our discussion someone said “that is much like in real life, taking time to find out why someone is acting the way they are is much more helpful than escalating the situation.”

Lucid Dreams according to Gayle are almost irresistible, as …”The colors are filled with sunlight and moonlight and one often has the impression that everything in the dream is more real and vivid than in waking reality.” (pg 243 )  Because they seem so real it is important to tell yourself that you are dreaming and that you are safe.  Next ask the dream figures to help you understand what they represent or what it is that you are needing to learn from this dream.  “Just remember that you have much more to gain if you use lucidity to explore rather than to manipulate and repress.” (pg251)

The second part of this chapter is on “false awakenings” or out of body experiences (OBE) or “experiences in which one seems to perceive the environment from a vantage point outside of the physical body.” (pg 259)  She also discusses Flying Dreams, and states that these are an easier route to Lucid Dreaming.  Flying dreams give one the feeling of freedom from the body.  Some people will be able to look down and see themselves in the bed as they start to fly in a dream.  Other people believe that when one leaves the body, it is “the intuitive part of the consciousness that leaves the body and travels somewhere else while the physically oriented portions of consciousness remain in it.” (pg265) When one awakens from a dream like this it is common for them to feel that there is much more to the dream than they can remember or they will say “I understood things about myself on a very deep level but I can’t put it into words.” (pg 266)  Others have had the experience of being in someone else’s body, and experiencing what they think is someone else’s state of mind.  (pg271)

On page 273 it is interesting that she says “in the out of body state, the dreamer attracts experiences that correspond to his expectations, fears, and level of psychological development as well as emotional state of mind.”  It is similar idea to what we think about we bring about.

The chapter ends with areas of exploration you can use in a dream when you realize you are experiencing a lucid dream.  A couple of suggestions she makes are;  1) initiate pleasurable flying dreams  2) turn frightening figures into helpful, informative ones.

This whole idea of expanding our awareness of our multidimensionality is fascinating.  (pg276)  I look forward to discussing this further next meeting.

Thank you Karen for coming to see us, it was so good to have you in group again.  We all enjoyed your visit and are continuing to pray for you and Jason!

Next week there will be no Book Club, but we will meet to discuss the last chapter (11) and continue with discussion on chapter 10.  We will meet at my home for lunch and then discussion on April 27.  For directions please contact me at



Book Club April 6, 2013 Chapter 8

Book Club April 6, 2013 Chapter 8
Mission Possible, (Asking Your Dreams for Creative Ideas)
This chapter focuses on the varied backgrounds of individuals who have used their dreams to help them in their work, in particular scientists and scholars.  She refers to Descartes, who based his work in methodology, algebra, physics and metaphysics on what was revealed to him in dreams.  Voltaire believed that “constructive ideas occur in sleep as well as when you are awake.” Pg 199.  “Mahatma Ghandhi used his dreams to find a non-violent response to England’s Rowlett Act” during the fight for liberation of India. Pg 200 Paul Webster, the author of Love is a Many Splendoured Thing “told his son and others that his dreams were a constant source of inspiration.” Pg 204
This chapter is written to help us “focus on examples of dreams that treat our creative needs centering around our philosophical, religious, artistic and work life.”  Pg 207  She goes on to say that “Dreams can provide some of the most beautiful and inspirational experiences of your life. …Some may show you a purpose in your life when you thought there was none.  I thought this was a very interesting and important point.  These dreams will impact your spirits whether you remember them or not.  However “if you cherish them, allow yourself to recall them, and even seek them out when you need them, they will become a far more frequent, potent influence upon your life.” Pg 208
“Where do these dreams come from?  Do they come from our highest self, our innermost being which has access to universal wisdom or maybe even God?   Our subconscious state of awareness where we have access to all the impressions and experience of our personal lives, which when creatively rearranged furnish us with inspirations that only seem to be beyond our normal powers of perception?” Pg 208 “ Carl Jung suggested that when we sleep we have access not only to our personal unconscious or subconscious but also to the more universal state of awareness he called the collective unconscious.” Pg 209 “Whatever the explanation people do have dreams in which they feel they experience or glimpse some ultimate reality and these experiences have led to the enhancement of their lives.” Pg210
The remainder of the chapter is of the various inspirational dreams that can and have occurred, some with life changing effects.  Some of these dreams are of such monumental significance, they are hard to put into words when the individual awakens, yet while asleep and even in recalling within their minds they understand the significance of these dreams.

Chapter 9, The Twilight Zone.
This interesting chapter was on predictive dreams, dreams where we dream of something before it occurs.  Several people in the dream group have experienced this, so we had some interesting discussion around this topic.  Another area of this chapter and of discussion was dreaming as if you are another individual.  She goes on to talk a bit further about “psychic dreaming” and quotes a professor of Psychology, Dr. H.J. Eysenck, as saying “there does exist a small number of people who obtain knowledge existing in other people’s minds or in the outer world by means as yet unknown to science.” Pg 226.
Gayle goes on to present dreams in which people dreamt something and then it happened sometimes to them, sometimes in the larger world.  She encourages us to read this and see if it inspires any of us to “explore our own psychic abilities.” Pg 226
On page 229 Gayle shares the “idea that we attract to ourselves the kinds of experiences we expect, fear, or generally concentrate on …(which) might explain why people who expect the best of life and dreams seem to have pleasant daily and dream lives.” Pg 229 The opposite idea being true as well, expecting negative and negative occurs.
Dreaming of dead relatives and friends occurs to many.  Some report that the deceased wanted them to know that they are fine, some ask for and receive advice and guidance from those who have passed over.  In this chapter again she talks about seeing the world from another person’s viewpoint or in another time.  Pg 233
She also suggests that if you wonder if you have lived other lives, you can ask your dream maker to let you know.  This too was interesting that sometimes people have the same dream.  Shared dreaming, or dreaming the same dream, raises the question of “whose dream is it really, whose creation? Pg 238.  The end of the chapter she once again has numerous questions to ask your dream maker if you want to experiment further along these lines.  Some of her suggestions are;
What happens after death?
Have I know my husband, (mother, sister) in another life?
What is like to see the world with ______’s eyes?
Thanks again to all who came to join us for dreams and discussion.  It is so interesting to hear all the interviewers questions, as each person in the room picks up on something different from the same dream.
Thanks to you for sharing as we all grow together.  See you next Saturday at 1 for chapter 10.

Book Club March 30, 2013 – Chapter 6&7

Chapter 6 – Dreaming in the Office

This chapter focuses on our work concerns and our relationships with others at the office.

Many people famous and not, have had inspirations from a dream that they were able to put to use in their work.  The needle for the singer sewing machine came about after Mr. Singer dreamt of warriors whose spears were shaped like the needle on a sewing machine now looks.  Gayle states that in many businesses “intuition is seen as an important attribute for rising to the top of a field, but dreams are usually dismissed as time lost in sleeping.  Nevertheless, dreams seem to be the most active laboratory in which intuitions are developed.” Pg 173

Our dreams can help us with new ideas for business proposals, inventing something which can be helpful at work, coming up with a Title for a project or a book, understanding why things are not flowing in your work and understanding interpersonal conflict.  By incubating dreams, we can ask the question that seems to be stumping us at work and wake up with a new perspective on the situation.  As she says “If you need a good idea, don’t forget to take advantage of the creative input available to you while you sleep.” Pg 175

Many in the business world are skeptical of this, yet once they try it themselves and wake up with a new appreciation of an old situation they become believers.  On pg 181 she poses several questions that intrigued me.  One was “how honorably am I conducting my business?” another was “Success isn’t as great as I thought it would be.  Why not?  What is missing?”  When grappling with the idea of retirement to ask, “What shall I do at this time of life?”  On pg 183 she poses a couple more that I liked; “How can I be more creative and satisfied within the context of my present job?” and “How can I be more effective/assertive/cooperative in my work environment?”

I found this chapter interesting, as many of our dreams have to do with work and relationships!  This just helps us be more specific by looking at a particular area.


Chapter 7 – Cinema Verite

“This chapter explores the use of dreams to discover how we honestly see ourselves, how our dream producer sees us, and what we can do to improve our self-image using dreams.”  Pg 185

One question that can be asked to incubate dreams is “How do I see myself?”  The example she shared was of a woman who asked just that question and then awoke with a dream fragment of “something about a TV and a small square table.” Pg 186 She wondered if that was really how she herself as “square and conservative?”

Gayle goes on to discuss that often our dream maker’s image of us is more objective than the way we actually see ourselves in our waking life.  To see yourself from your conscious point of view, you may need to ask your dreams to “show you what beliefs about yourself determine your self-image; how others see you; and how daring you are in setting your personal, interpersonal, and professional, and spiritual goals.  If you don’t think much of yourself, it would benefit you to realize it, because this attitude surely influences your behavior and all of your relationships in one way or another.  You can use your dreams to discover aspects of your self-image that you have been spending psychic energy hiding from your full awareness.”Pg 186 Once you see and understand the beliefs you hold, you can examine and diffuse some of their power and influence in your life. Pg 187

Many times we ask a question, get an answer and then ignore it.  It is rather interesting with her examples in the book the number of times this happens and the message is ignored with resulting frustration in life.  Our dream maker really wants us to live fulfilling lives.  Once the message is received and acted upon,” it can have a profound impact on your life.” 188

I recommend that if anyone has an issue they would like to work on in their life, they open this book to page 195 and keep this open beside your bed.  This page has many questions to ask your dream maker to help you find your real self.

A couple of questions from this page are; What beliefs do I have about myself that I need to be more aware of?  What attitudes do I hold about myself that limit my enjoyment of life?  What are my most restricting fears or inhibitions?

I loved this chapter as it deals so much with new ways of looking at ourselves with honesty and appreciation.  As we discussed in group today, many of us are quick to identify our negative qualities, but tend to hold back on the positive and powerful ones.  Our dreams can help us overcome this when we tune in and receive.

Thanks to all who joined us today, it was a great discussion once again.  Thanks for sharing your dreams and thanks to all for participation in the interview process.  Next week we will discuss chapters 8 &9.  Happy Easter and see you next Saturday.